Philosophy Discussion

Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz

📍 with Hayagriva ⏱ 16 min
When souls desire according to God's will, the world becomes the City of God; material suffering results from desires contrary to Krishna's order.
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Hayagrīva: Concerning the relation between the soul and the body, Leibniz writes, "Insofar as the soul has perfection and distinct thoughts, God has accommodated the body to the soul and has arranged beforehand that the body is impelled to execute its orders," the orders of the soul.

Hayagrīva: "God has accommodated the body to the soul and has arranged before..." Prabhupda: That is explained in Bhagavad-gt:

vara sarva-bhtn hd-dee arjuna tihati bhrmayan sarva-bhtni yantrrhni myay [Bg 18.61] That the body is a machine. The soul wanted to walk or move in a certain specific way, and He has given these instrument. Just like if you want to go by car, the car is there; if you want to go by bus, the bus is there; if you want to go by railway, the railway is there; if you want to fly by airship, the airship is there. Similarly, the soul is desiring in a particular way, and God is supplying through His material agent a..., that particular type of body. Therefore the bird is flying, the fish is within the water, and the uncivilized men or animals within the forest and civilized men in the city. In this way different, 8,400,000's of different bodies are there according to the desire of the soul, and the machine of the body is supplied by nature under the order of God. This is explained.

Hayagrīva: Oh, he says, "Insofar as the soul is perfect it controls the body, but insofar as the soul is imperfect or its perceptions are confused, the soul is slaved by the passions arising out of corporeal representations."

Prabhupāda: That is explained in the Bhagavad-gt very nicely, that the soul is in this material world, and he is influenced by the three modes of material nature. So according to his position under the influence of three different kinds of modes, he is getting this body. It is on account of his free will. Just like if he wants to eat anything and everything up to stool, then he is given the body of a pig. If he wants to eat direct blood, sucking, then he gets the body of a tiger. And if he wants to eat first-class nutritious food, then he is given the

body of a brhmaa. In this way we are getting different types of bodies according to our desire. We are creating different types of desires that, "We shall be happy in this way, we shall be happy in this way." Just like we see practically, somebody is going to the restaurant he thinks, "By eating here in restaurant I shall be happy." And somebody is going to the Ka consciousness temple he is thinking that, "I shall be happy by eating here." So Ka has given everyone the chance, but he is trying to be happy but he is not becoming happy, because he is misusing his intelligence, cent per cent abiding by the orders of God; therefore he is suffering. As such Ka comes personally and induces him that, "You don't desire in this way. You give up all this material desire. You simply desire to act according My order, you surrender unto Me, and I will give you all happiness."

Hayagrīva: Leibniz pictures a kind of city of God. He writes, "God is the monarch of the most perfect republic composed of all the spirits, and the happiness of this city of God is His principal purpose. The primary purpose in the moral world, or the city of God, which constitutes the noblest part of the universe, ought to be to extend the greatest happiness possible."

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