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Medical Treatment And Temple Repairs, Mayapur Pilgrimage And Devotee Service

📅 November 9, 1977 📍 Vrindavan ⏱ 35 min
Even in bodily suffering, the spiritual master's heart remains fixed on Krishna's mission and his disciples' welfare.
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[kavirāja arrives—Hindi discussions with Prabhupāda] [break]

Kavirāja: [Transl. Today did you feel pain while passing urine? Did you pass in the evening?]

Kavirāja: [Transl. Little bit. Now, when will you go to Mayāpura? You have a desire?]

Prabhupāda: [Transl. How can I go in this condition?]

Kavirāja: [Transl. This condition will not remain forever. You have a desire to go, no?]

Kavirāja: [Transl. Today I read a śloka. Mūkaṁ karoti vācālaṁ paṅguṁ laṅghayate girim, [Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta, Madhya 17.80] [break] Prabhupāda: [Indistinct] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Puruṣottma Gosvāmī has come back Prabhupāda. In Jaisingh Ghera.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Ah. He cannot do it?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. I don't know Śrīla Prabhupāda, I didn't see the temple, what he wants and what he doesn't want.] Kavirāja: [Transl. He is loaded with money.] Bhagatjī: [Transl. I didn't see. I will go and see. What he wants, Śrīla Prabhupāda, and what is your order please tell us.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. He wants to live nicely.] Bhagatjī: [Indistinct] Prabhupāda: [Transl. No, we will repair it.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Will repair it.] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Repair.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Uneasiness is less, no?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. What?] Kavirāja: [Transl. Restlessness is somewhat less?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Yes.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. It's less now, this restlessness and the pain.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Are you passing urine? Is he passing urine? When did he pass?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Yesterday he passed at twelve o' clock.] Kavirāja: [Transl. What?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Twelve o'clock.] Kavirāja: [Transl. You didn't ask after that? After twelve o'clock no more.] Bhakti-cāru: He didn't pass urine after that. Last one is at five past twelve. Bhavānanda: That's all. He hasn't passed any since then. Prabhupāda: Hmm? Bhakti-cāru: He asking about urine, Śrīla Prabhupāda, whether you passed urine afterwards. [Hindi] Prabhupāda: No. [indistinct] Bhakti-cāru: No, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Prabhupāda: Tamāla is there? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Prabhupāda: So, you reply the letter of M. M. De, "In the absence of your bank [indistinct], we shall send you the money to your house address, and other address that you do not disclose, we cannot send there." Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: His other address, since he does not disclose, we cannot send there. Prabhupāda: Hmm. "You'll get your money at your house." Is that all right? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Śrīla Prabhupāda? Do you want us to give something towards repairing this Caitanya Mahāprabhu Mandir? Prabhupāda: Yes. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is there any amount in particular that you want to be given? Prabhupāda: First of all make an estimate. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's some maximum amount? Prabhupāda: Bhagatjī? Bhagatjī: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Prabhupāda: You can estimate? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You have any idea? Bhagatjī: [Transl. Prabhupāda I will go there in the evening and find out. I will take someone with me.] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jayapatākā can go with him. This man who came yesterday was Visvanath Mishra? Bhagatjī: Balaram. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The man who came yesterday was Balaram Mishra? Bhagatjī: Yes, Balaram Mishra. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yesterday, that was Balaram Mishra or that was Visvanath Mishra? Bhagatjī: Balaram Mishra. Bhakti-cāru: He wrote down. I think I told you. Prabhupāda: Have some kīrtana. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Jaya. Bhavānanda: Have some kīrtana. [kīrtana] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Does that temple belong to some particular person?] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What did Prabhupāda say? Bhakti-cāru: Whether that temple belongs to some particular person. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: [aside:] We have to find out who that temple belongs to. Prabhupāda: [Transl. How big the temple is?] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Prabhupāda: Nāhi, Bhagatjī. Bhagatjī: [Transl. Śrīla Prabhupāda.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. How big is the temple?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Prabhupādajī, I have not seen it till now. Today I will see and tell you everything. I think it is not very big. [Whispering in background] Prabhupāda should I go now?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. What?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. So see it should I go now?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. If it is convenient then you go.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. If it is convenient.] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Yes, convenient, I will take bath and then go. Last night I came back late from Agra.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Really?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Yes. That signboard of the gate. Signboard of the gate. I went to Agra for that.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Why did you go to Agra?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. I went to check the stone work and also check the rates Śrīla Prabhupāda. There is a difference in the rates of Gurukula.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Did they charge more?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Yes?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Did they charge more?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. It seems like that. That's why I did not make the payment. He said first you check the rate. So after checking I went there yesterday personally. There is so much difference in the rate. I had to order stone for the gate and also for the Gurukul. I had to order quiet a few stone works.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Gate what?] Bhagatjī: [Transl. Bhaktivedanta Swamī Gate. It has to be written, a big sand stone has to be placed up.] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is the name of the gate meant to be? Bhakti-cāru: Bhaktivedanta Swami Gate on one way; and Bhaktivedanta Swami Dvāra in Hindi the other way. [indistinct background discussion with devotees] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Śrīla Prabhupāda? Please open your mouth, I put little medicine.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. What medicine?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. This is ark [cow urine]] Prabhupāda: [Hmm.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Open your mouth once more Śrīla Prabhupāda. Little more left.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. No more.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Very little is there.] Prabhupāda: Hmm. Bhagatjī: [Transl. Give some water] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Should I give you little more water?] [break] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...begun some pūjā. Prabhupāda: Ask him not to do any more [indistinct]. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Not to do anymore, unless he does it here. Prabhupāda: If he cannot do here... Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hmm. Seems like he's mostly after money, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Is that true? Prabhupāda: Everyone says like that. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. I got that feeling when I saw him. I felt it was very inappropriate that he should come here and in your condition he should be pressing you for money like that. I didn't feel it was very proper. So, er, Bhagatjī is going to be going looking at that temple, so I can tell him that he should tell Balaram Mishra that unless he does the pūjā here, then don't do it. Prabhupāda: Bhagatjī has not gone? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, I'm going to go over to his house right now and just see, Śrīla Prabhupāda. All right? And if Bhagatjī's still home, I'll tell him that he should tell that to Balaram Mishra. Either he does the pūjā here or don't do it at all. Is that all right? Prabhupāda: Hmm. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want him to do it here, though? Prabhupāda: Hmm. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right. All right, I'll do that, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I'll come back and let you know what happened. In case Bhagatjī's already gone, then... I'll investigate, Śrīla Prabhupāda, right now. Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Prabhupāda: Hmm? Bhavānanda: Upendra and I would like to give you an oil massage. Is that all right? But to do a full, good job, we have to lay you on your back. Is that all right? Prabhupāda: Yes. Whatever you like. [break] [Transl. [indistinct] Sit down. [indistinct] What more? The state is very big. Manage it nicely. Make people devotees of Hari. Be yourself a devotee of Hari. Eat and live nicely. There is no question of unhappiness. Am I right?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Is your health good now?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Our joy has increased in Māyāpur.] Prabhupāda: [Prabhupāda becomes emotional and breaks down] [Transl. So much difficulty. Alas! You all are young boys, Anyway you all have taken trouble for Mahāprabhu. I could not do anything. You were beaten up and you tolerated all that. It is good that you have come. I don't know, my condition is such if I will be able to see again. Is everyone well?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. All are well. Nowadays many people come to Māyāpur for darśana.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Wipe my tears. Many people come?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Prabhupāda.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. How many people come?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Some days it is more than a thousand people. And from Murshidābad, Beharampur and Calcutta 2/3 reserved buses come to Māyāpur for darśana.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Do you distribute Prasāda to them?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Prabhupāda. We distribute prasāda.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. What prasāda do you give?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. In the temple sweet peanuts are distributed and in the front we have a Mahāprasāda stall.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. How many devotees are there?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. More than one hundred seventy now.] Prabhupāda: Hmm. Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. The Gurukula boys of Mayāpur are mad to see you. All the devotees are mad to see you.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. This is my condition. How can I go?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Thinking that you would come the devotees jubilantly chant and glorify you. They thought you would come. When then heard you would not come, they almost cried. They think about you and say why Śrīla Prabhupāda didn't come.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. To go in this condition is very troublesome. How is the book sell?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. In the temple, Śrīla Prabhupāda, about more than one hundred books are sold everyday. Someday the sell is more. On Sunday the book sell goes up [Bhakticāru whispers about preaching party.] And preaching party, two preaching parties are out for preaching.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Ten to twelve thousand books are being sold every week Śrīla Prabhupāda, Jayapatākā Mahārāja said.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. What?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Preaching party and temple together, about ten to twelve thousand books are being sold every week.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Which book?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Gītāra Gāna, Bhagavat Darśana, Bhagavāner Kathā] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Do you have stock?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Prabhupāda we have stock.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Are they printing?] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Yes, Printing is going on.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Śrīla Prabhupāda, now Tapomaya is looking after the printing work. He is doing a good job.] Prabhupāda: Hmm. Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Three books are being published right now. Very soon they will come out from the printer.] Nitāi-cānda: [Transl. Before Rāsa Purnimā two books will be printed.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. What are those books?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Those are-Bhakti Kathā, Jñāna Kathā and along with Jñāna Kathā your Buddhi-yoga. And Jñāna-Kathā and Buddhi-yoga will together come as one book and Bhakti Kathā will come as a separate book. And your short articles from 'Gauḍīya Magazine' were collected and it is coming out as Bhakti Ratnāvalī. And all these together a large book called Vairāgya Vidyā is going to come.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. When books are printed, they are sold.] Bhakti-cāru: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.]

Jayapatākā: [Transl. The book Bhagavāner Kathā was printed about twenty four thousand copies. All are finished now. Now they are being re-printed]

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