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Krishna's Personal Form Beyond Mayavadi Distortions, Bhagavad Gita Transforms Western Seekers

📅 November 2, 1977 📍 Vrindavan ⏱ 11 min
Krishna's personal form, clearly established in scripture, must be preached as it is, not distorted by impersonal interpretations.
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Prabhupāda: Jaya. [Transl. Your health is okay?] Jaidayal Dalmia: [Transl. Your body has become very weak.]

Prabhupāda: Jaya. [Transl. Sit down. What happened in the conference?] Jaidayal Dalmia: [Transl. There was a Gītā conference arranged by the people of Wardhā, I came for that.]

Prabhupāda: Jaya. [Transl. Yes. What was passed?] Jaidayal Dalmia: [Transl. It was passed that all people together, those who preach Bhagavad-gītā, they should together preach and spread the message of Bhagavad-gītā as much as possible. And there should be reconciliation among all.]

Prabhupāda: Jaya. [Transl. But does it happen? Does it happen?] Jaidayal Dalmia: [Transl. Let us see whatever little we can do.]

Prabhupāda: [Transl. Sit down. So much preaching is necessary. People are looking for this in the whole world] There is good demand all over the world.

[Transl. By distorting the actual meaning, they say.] "Kṛṣṇa is not person; Kṛṣṇa is consciousness." [Transl. What will you gain by doing this?] Kṛṣṇa personally speaking, and "He is consciousness." He says, yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata [Bg 4.7]: "I come down." [Transl. And these people don't accept it. They write topsy-turvy commentaries and personal opinions.] Māyāvādī. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has condemned, māyāvādi-bhāṣya śunile haya sarva-nāśa [Cc Madhya 6.169]. This is stated in Caitanya-caritāmṛta. [Transl. Their commentary is Māyāvāda or impersonalism. What is the use of that?] Yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ [Bg 4.3]. Kṛṣṇa said that, "I am speaking to you the old yoga system." [Transl. These people are giving new and personal interpretations. What kind of people they are?] [break] Kṛṣṇa is person. Where is that verse in the Tenth Canto? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In the Bhagavad-gītā? Prabhupāda: Paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān [Bg 10.12]. Jayādvaita: Tenth Chapter. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān puruṣaṁ śāśvataṁ divyam ādi-devam ajaṁ vibhum [Bg 10.12] Prabhupāda: Puruṣaṁ śāśvatam. Govindam ādi-puruṣam. [break] This is understanding of Bhagavad-gītā. But they'll not do that.

What can be done? They cannot preach Bhagavad-gītā. Sarvam etad ṛtaṁ manye [Bg 10.14]. Next line? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yan māṁ vadasi keśava, na hi te bhagavan vyaktiṁ vidur devā na dānavāḥ. Prabhupāda: Ah.

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