Ayurvedic Treatment Protocol, Gradual Health Recovery

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Kavirāja: [Transl. You take that powder and tie it in a piece of cloth and dip it inside milk. You take 250 gram milk, 50 gram water and that medicine and you keep boiling until the water evaporated. Then you take out the medicine and give him the milk. If you give milk with medicine like this, there will be no mucus.]

Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Okay. Milk is necessary for him.]

Kavirāja: [Transl. If you notice he has little mucus then give him some Śītopalādi Chūrṇa regularly.]

Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Did you write it down?]

Kavirāja: [Transl. No, You bring it separately. I will explain to Assistant Kavirāja about the condition of his health on a day to day basis. Whatever he needs to do. You need not worry about the cough, that I will control quickly. What will he get strength from?]

Kavirāja: [Transl. Yes, Diet. Protein Diet like curd. Curd is full of protein. If he doesn't take anything, you at least give him barley three times a day.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Okay.] Kavirāja: [Transl. He is taking liquid anyway. About one kilo of liquid is going inside.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Maximum one kilo or may be eleven hundred grams.] Kavirāja: [Transl. As for his motion, if he doesn't pass stool for three, four days then give him a glycerin anema.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. We usually give him water anema.] Kavirāja: [Transl. That is also okay. But by giving glycerin anema that part becomes slippery so that the stool can pass smoothly. You can take one ounce of glycerin, one ounce olive oil and water and give him. It is the gas that dries the stool and caupses constipation. And that way gradually one has the problem of constipation. He also doesn't take enough food.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Last three, four days...] Kavirāja: [Transl. He may not eat any grain, he may not eat grain for fifteen days, no problem. And honey...] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. He didn't eat grain since six months.] Kavirāja: [Transl. There is no harm that he did not eat grains for six month. There is milk, juice, barley.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Little bit curd we can give.] Kavirāja: [Transl. That is good. Gradually as he develops appetite, from medicine he will have appetite, so gradually as he gets appetite he will start eating. And this particular season is also favorable for increasing the fire of digestion naturally. During this time the sun supplies energy to the human beings. In summer season the energy is drained out. Therefore the energy level goes down gradually. This is a good season. This season will naturally give strength and I believe gradually all his disturbances will go away and his health will improve. So today I will make arrangement for decoction and how will I get the medicine from Calcutta? Ark from Calcutta is necessary. It is difficult. It is not available in Delhi.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Can someone bring it from there?] Kavirāja: [Transl. Yes.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Can you get it by post? Parcel?] Kavirāja: [Transl. By post not possible, because it will be in a bottle.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. explaining: To transport the medicine, someone can bring it from Calcutta here. [If someone brings with him then it's good.] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Or the same things, if the ingredients can be gotten in Delhi or Agra, they can be prepared here? Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. You can do like this, you get the ingredients from Delhi and prepare the decoction here.] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have Prabhupāda's car. We can go. Kavirāja: [Transl. It is not possible because the medicine has to be produced by bhapkā or distilling machine.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. What is bhapkā?] Kavirāja: [Transl. By which...] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. From the steam.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Yes. From the steam of the medicine the water is collected. It is not possible here. Distilled water.] Bhakti-caru: He says it's distilled. He has got to distill the medicine. For that he needs proper apparatus. Kavirāja: [Transl. Instead of water I want to give him that. The faster his kidney starts to function, the faster his appetite will come back. Actually all the poison of the body goes out through urine. Just see his hands, here, all the salt from the body is accumulated here. Do not give him salt at all. ] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. We don't give him salt, not at all.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Still if give him salt then, there is a salt which is produced from Punārṇava, in Allopath K-salt is used, but that salt is even better than the Allopathic K-salt. We will give him that salt later. Now there is no need to give that. When all the swelling is gone then you can give him.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Today I am going to cook some Lauki sabji and in that I have to put little salt.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Would you like some salt in it?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Even if there is no salt it is okay.] Kavirāja: [Transl. The best thing is not to have any salt. If you want to put then put little K-salt or rock salt. Which salt do you use?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. We use rock salt for him. By putting salt it becomes tasty and then perhaps he will eat little. Before also we used to give him salt, say about three months ago. At that time he was having this swelling but he was eating. Though he had swelling he used to eat little bit.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Now he has no appetite. Before he had no aversion to food. If no food goes inside the body then gradually all the muscles etc will dry up and srink.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. It will be nice if we can give him some milk.] Kavirāja: [Transl. As for milk, I will give some medicine to be taken with milk so that there will be no mucus. Milk, now about diet, we will gradually increase the quantity of his milk intake. We will increase the quantity of milk up to one kilo or two kilos.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Previously he used to drink about 750 grams of milk. Everyday we used to give him milk three four times. About 750 grams.] Kavirāja: [Transl. One kilo of milk he must take everday for his health. One kilo of milk is not so much.] Bhakti-caru: He's saying Śrīla Prabhupāda should drink at least a kilo of milk every day. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Phew! If he personally feeds Prabhupāda, I can believe that he'll take it. Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Mahārāja is saying if you personally feed Śrīla Prabhupādajī one kilo of milk that will be the best.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Then leave him like this for ten fifteen days and then we will take him to Māyāpur and you will have no problem.] Bhakti-caru: He said that for ten, fifteen days let him be like this here, and then he'll take him to Māyāpur. Kavirāja: [Transl. There, there will be no problem. Slowly, slowly we will take him around, he will get back his strength and everything will be alright.] Bhakti-caru: And then he can take personal charge over there. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So now you have to get these medicines. Bhakti-caru: Yes. Get the medicines, and... He wants to see the kavirāja also, because he's going to give some instructions to him, like if in case, when he is not here, so that he can... [Transl. The point is that the local Kavirāja from here is an elderly person. He has difficulty in walking. So...] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But that other gentleman will not... Bhakti-caru: No, no, not him. I'm talking about Śrī Raṅgajī's temple there is a young kavirāja. Kavirāja: [Transl. Any Kavirāja, the point is if he is ready to do service nicely and take whatever fee is reasonable.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. There is no question of fee.] Kavirāja: [Transl. See, there are two things, either one's own interest or interest of God.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Let us go to that Kavirāja who used to treat Prabhupāda before and you can talk to him personally. You can check whether he would be able to do the work.] Kavirāja: [Transl. What I mean is I want somebody to act as my representative. This is what I want. As I instruct him he should follow so that Mahārāja's condition will get better.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Okay, you can talk to both of them and see which one.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Say, there is some extra treatment needed, he should be able to take care of it. The symptoms of disease change according to the condition of the patient. For example, if he gets loose motion then that should be controlled, if there is gas that should be taken care off. These disturbances may arise suddenly and they should be controlled, otherwise like that the health condition should go on steadily.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Yes. There should not be any difficulty.] Kavirāja: [Transl. I treated one patient in Delhi. I left one assistant Kavirāja there to look after him. I used to come once a month. Now that patient has put on forteen kilos weight! The patient had twenty ulcers, peptic ulcers. Doctors told him he will not be cured and he is going to die. Now he has no more ulcers, all are cured. Everything happens by the will of the God, but the person who takes care should be...] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Good.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Good. If he likes, sometimes give him raisins. Does he eat raisins?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Nowadays we don't give him. Previously we gave him raisins by grinding it.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Oh, Like chutney.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Because at that time he had no appetite at all.] Kavirāja: [Transl. The main point is he should get back his appetite.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. That is the biggest problem.] Kavirāja: [Transl. In the course of time his intestine has shrunk. Therefore he lost his appetite. When a person has no appetite, his bodily strength starts to reduce. When one has appetite and he starts to eat little by little, he will slowly gain strength and recover his health.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Our Vanamāli Bābu...] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Will not work under anyone's direction.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. That's why I think in Raṅgajī temple there is a Dispensary. I met with a Vaidyajī there. He is young. He also told me that if there is any service for me I will be glad to do it. So I am thinking of taking this Kavirāja to that Vaidyajī. He is also young and agile. He will act accordingly.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Why don't you bring that Vaidyajī here?] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Okay. Śrīla Prabhupāda.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Bring him here and talk to him.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I will bring him. Also Vaidyajī wants to go to the market. Whatever medicines he requires he wants to personally buy them.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Alright.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Want to say something more Śrīla Prabhupāda?] Prabhupāda: [Transl. No. What I have to say.] Kavirāja: [Transl. Then let's go.] Bhakti-cāru: [Transl. Okay.] [break] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So in that way he was thinking to leave, but now he's agreed to stay on for at least five or six days. We convinced him that "You stay here, and you take Prabhupāda to Māyāpur personally." That's what we're pushing for. We explained how all of his patients put together multiplied by one crore cannot equal Your Divine Grace. And he agreed. He said, "That I know." And we explained that... He was quoting from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. So we explained how Your Divine Grace was the representative and incarnation of Vyāsadeva, and he accepted that. He has very high respect for Vyāsadeva and for you, because he's seen your books. He knows that you're not ordinary. Then he described what was wrong with you and how he's going to be treating it. We told him that... Then I was asking him what is his native place. So he's Marwari. Then he was telling us the native town. And I asked him if he had any charitable dispensary. He said he wouldn't take any money. We were trying to think of different ways to... Anyway, he wouldn't take any money. Then he said he has a... He talked about his father. His father was a very big devotee of Nṛsiṁhadeva. So one day his father plus eleven other Vaiṣṇavas went to Badarikāśrama for darśana of the Deities. And on the way... They were walking, and on the way they were attacked by these baels.[?] They're called baels? Bhavānanda: Aborigines in the north. Very ferocious. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're ferocious men. So the men said that "Now we will kill you and take your money, plunder you." So his father said, "Well, we will give you whatever we have, but what is the use of killing us?" They said, "No, we are not brāhmaṇas. We are aborigines. So we like to kill also." So then the father said, "Then at least, the king, even if he hangs someone, he gives them five minutes for prayer. So give us five minutes." So then all of the Vaiṣṇavas, they chanted Nṛsiṁhadeva mantras very strongly. And suddenly there was a strong roaring of a lion, and a big ferocious lion leaped into the middle and ate up two of the attackers. And then all of the Vaiṣṇavas, they bowed down at the feet of the lion and they were offering prayers, and the lion went away. So his father... He said that if one has a pure heart, if he's a pure Vaiṣṇava, Kṛṣṇa can appear. He said in the form of the lion Kṛṣṇa actually protected them. So he wants to make some charitable dispensary in his home town on behalf of his father. I'm thinking if he cures you we will give him a nice donation towards that charitable dispensary. Then we told him that... We asked him what kind of food does he like. So he told us, so that now we'll make arrangement. We gave him very good food this morning, and we will cook him roṭis. Bhakti-caru and another devotee are cooking. So they will cook him fresh vegetables as he likes, according to his taste. And Adri-dhāraṇa serves him personally. And then I said also, "While you're here, there's much time. We can take you to the different temples." Because this is the first time he's come to Vṛndāvana. I said, "Even in the afternoon you can go with Prabhupāda's car to Govardhana." He said, "First of all, before darśana, let us do the medicine." So he went with the car. He said, "I will drive the car. I can drive." We said, "We have a driver." He said, "If you don't have a driver, I will drive to get the medicine." So then they went into the city to get..., into Vṛndāvana to get the necessary medicines. He said very strongly, he said, "What I prescribe, no vaidya can talk over what I prescribe." He said, "If I prescribe something, it is correct. That I'm sure." But he is very devotional, very pakka, like a Marwari, just like a high-class Life Member. He sits very straight and he's... Now we will have to see. But the main point we stressed is that you will not have confidence in anyone else. So there's no point in..., that he should tell some other man that in his absence, "Do like this." Because supposing in his absence the medicine doesn't work right. Then the other kavirāja becomes the kavirāja. That we don't want. So I said, "You must see the reaction of the medicines, and you must... When Prabhupāda eats, you must sit there and watch and see what he's eating, see everything." And he said, "That I will do." Another nice thing, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Remember, you initiated one devotee, Rādhā-Ramaṇa Goswami? You remember his father and mother, Joshis, from Delhi? You lived with them. So he wrote a letter to you about a week ago, saying that he wanted to come back. So I wrote him, "Yes, you come. Prabhupāda will see you." So he came today. He's in saffron with shaved head. So I thought afterwards he can come and... He wants to become a devotee again. He's wasted his five years. He knows he's wasted time. Akṣayānanda Mahārāja suggested that he can engage in helping Bhakti-prema Swami. Because Bhakti-prema, he dictates, but he needs someone to hear and to write. This way, he'll be working for your books and hearing the philosophy, and he's a literate person, three years in college. So anyway, he returned today. Nanda-kumāra also came. He arrived yesterday. So gradually everyone is returning to your lotus feet, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Not possible to leave you, Śrīla Prabhupāda. So would you like to go on the parikramā this morning? We can make arrangements now? Upendra: We have some grape juice. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Would you like to take something, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Drinking? Prabhupāda: I have taken in the morning Horlick. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You took Horlicks? Want to take any more? Śatadhanya: We have some here. Bhavānanda: Grape juice they prepared, if you like to take. Svarūpa Dāmodara: It's about ten to eleven, Śrīla Prabhupāda, about ten minutes to eleven. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...we can go on parikramā. The weather is cool in Vṛndāvana now, even during the day. We'll put your sunglasses on so you won't be disturbed by the light. [indistinct background talking] Śatadhanya: It's grape juice, Śrīla Prabhupāda. [Prabhupāda drinks] Bhavānanda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Mahārāja and I went into the temple for darśana, and we were commenting how the people are so impressed by the Deities, all of the visitors, especially Rādhā-Śyāmasundara. They're so beautifully dressed. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhavānanda Mahārāja was saying how last night you were saying that there's nothing nicer and more fortunate than to be the pūjārī of a Deity. [break] [discussing letter from Dr. G. Ghosh] We'll just get the sum and substance. He's offering his obeisances to Bhavānanda Mahārāja and the other devotees he met here. He says he's very anxious about your health and progress. He requests me to give him a report. He says as regards to starting of the dispensary and also organizing a health teaching center for educating the boys by the latest audio-visual methods, he said that you seemed to be very earnest about it. In fact, he says that you told him to start as soon as possible. He says but he wishes to explain some of his difficulties. So Dr. Sharma and Jagadīśa, the director of education, and... They've promised to go through the idea. But he didn't find that Dr. Sharma showed much inclination for this idea. The actual thing, Śrīla Prabhupāda, is that we want him to have a dispensary. We're not so much eager for his educational training. Naturally, Dr. Sharma was not so enthusiastic. Prabhupāda: No. Our is spiritual education, no medical education. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Right. That's the point. Prabhupāda: Preliminary health principles, they can learn. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And that's already going on. Svarūpa Dāmodara: Sharma is teaching Āyurvedic, basic Āyurvedic. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, anyway, that's all right. So I'll explain to him that what we want... I already wrote him a letter inviting him to... He can have two rooms—one for his living and one for his dispensary, and treat the inmates here. I'll again repeat that. [break] Svarūpa Dāmodara: Light? Rajeev Gupta: Dr. Sharma said that you named introduction as Antar-Darśana because it gives in essence of the entire... Prabhupāda: Hmm? Rajeev Gupta: Dr. Sharma suggested that we name introduction as Antar-Darśana, because it is the essence of the entire commentary. We have summarized the entire thing into thirty pages. So I thought we can name it... Prabhupāda: Antar-Darśana? Rajeev Gupta: Yes. Prabhupāda: Good. Read it. Svarūpa Dāmodara: Read it. Rajeev Gupta: [Śrīmad Bhagavad-gītā is also called Gītopaniṣad. Among the whole vedic statements it is the topmost Upaniṣad. Actually it is the essence of all vedic literatures.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Okay. Good.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: [Transl. It's good.] Prabhupāda: Sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ [Cc Madhya 17.136]. [Transl. The more you become inclined to the Lord's service, the Lord will sit on your tongue and manifest Himself.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Yes. That I am realizing. As I practice more and more...] Prabhupāda: sevonmukhe hi jihvādau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ/ ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ. [Transl. He is not realized by the material senses. But one who is prepared to render service, the Supreme Lord appears in his tongue] Thank you very much. Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Prabhupādajī, I have strong desire that I may render service more and more. So if I get ability...] Prabhupāda: [Transl. You will have it. Yādṛśī, [Brahma-saṁhītā 5.61] How it goes?] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. My goal is to do one book in a month.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Do it. Do it more.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Prabhupādajī, I have a strong desire that your Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta is translated into Hindi.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. That's a good idea. It will be done. Try hard. It will be successful. And what is the first page?] Svarūpa Dāmodara: First page. Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. In the first page, actually I have some difficulty in two, three places in the first page. In two three sentences.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. No, in Title page.] Rajeev Gupta: Title. [Transl. That is now being published in Bombay. In your purport to the first verse I have some doubts in two three senses whether I am translating it correctly or not?] Prabhupāda: Which śloka? Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. The introduction is named Antar darśana. In your commentary of the first śloka there is one sentence. Here it is.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Read it.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Dhṛtarāṣṭra said: O Sañjaya, after my sons and the sons of Pāṇḍu assembled in the place of pilgrimage at Kurukṣetra, desiring to fight, what did they do? Purport, Bhagavad-gītā is the widely read theistic science summarized in the Gītā-māhātmya.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. How many pages are being printed?] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Now about seventy, eighty pages have been printed.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. First chapter is completed?] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. First chapter is done. Mahārājajī, my translation is ordinary, but your commentary is incomparable. When this literature is distributed in India, it will open the eyes of the public.] Prabhupāda: Smiles Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. The vision of people is covered by duplicity and cheating. This book will reveal the actual truth and open their eyes. You have presented it in a very pure way.] Prabhupāda: As it is. Svarūpa Dāmodara: That's in all languages. Prabhupāda: [Transl. It is selling like anything.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Mahārājajī, we have received an order of ten thousand copies from Fiji.] Prabhupāda: Really! laughs Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Mahārājajī, Then what can be said of India? In India it will sell in Lakhs.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Fiji center says give us as many copies as you can. There, we have a big temple of Kāliyā-damana, Kṛṣṇa.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Kṛṣṇa-Kāliyā!] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Now everything is established, but I have to go. This must be the desire of the Lord.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: It's unlimited service that one can render. Rajeev Gupta: That's why I become a bit discouraged sometimes, because I'm not able to do what I want to do. Prabhupāda: [Transl. Hanumān-prasāda's grandson has complained that what you have done is hundred times...] Prabhupāda: [Transl. How many copies did Fiji order?] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Ten thousand, Mahārāja.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Our Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta is also selling very widely.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Yes Mahārāja.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Yes Mahārāja.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. The cost of one set is eight hundred rupees.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Yes Mahārāja.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. About four thousand copies have already been sold.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. That's thirty-two lakhs.] Prabhupāda: Laughs. Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Mahārājajī, if it can sell in English, then it can certainly sell in Hindi.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: So you can translate also. Rajeev Gupta: I want. It's his mercy, which will do. [Transl. Mahārājajī, All over the world and in India also almost all the young people have become impersonalists. Almost everyone. I spoke to many people and they don't believe God is a person. Nobody says He is a person. They say God is a divine power.] That's all. He is not a person. Prabhupāda: [Transl. They say I am God.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Yes. They also say so.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Especially the party of Mahesh Yogī is totally atheist.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: Nonsense. Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Mahesh Yogī, Bhagavān Rajneesh] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Now they are all being subdued. Now they have no importance.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Mahārājajī, It is unfortunate for India that people are not recognizing that the personification of the Lord's power has incarnated. This is truly very unfortunate.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. It is mentioned in the śāstra kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe tāra pravartana, Unless empowered by Kṛṣṇa, one cannot propagate the saṅkīrtana movement. [Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta Antya-līlā 7.11] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. But Mahārājajī, God's power has descended in your form. This is not an ordinary thing.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Print as many books as possible and distribute them. Did you take prasāda?] Svarūpa Dāmodara: Did you get prasāda? Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Mahārājajī, Just now I came.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Give him prasāda.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. You come with me, take prasādam. Prabhupāda: [Transl. This Baradrāj Prabhu...] Svarūpa Dāmodara: Baradrāj? Prabhupāda: [Transl. … is arranging a Doll exhibition.] Rajeev Gupta: [Transl. Yes. Mahārāja. Mahārājajī, I have seen the first volume of the tenth canto of your Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. How nicely you have presented it. Very nice. All the ācāryas mood is revealed there.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. The Dolls he is making are also unique. Have you seen the pictures?] Rajeev gupta: [Transl. Yes Mahārājaji.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: You want to take some prasāda? Prabhupāda: Hmm. Who is this? Baradrāj: Nayanābhirāma. Prabhupāda: Hum? Baradrāj: Nayanābhirāma. Prabhupāda: [Transl. All of you go and take prasad.] Svarūpa Dāmodara: Okay.Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. All glories to Prabhupāda. [break] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Have you seen the article in the Statesman?] Upendra: Oh, Śrīla Prabhupāda, none of us speak Hindi. There's no more Hindi-speaking disciples at your side just now. Baradrāj, Nayanābhirāma and myself, Upendra dāsa, are here. Prabhupāda: [Transl. In the Statesman there is a report.] Upendra: They have that article in the next room. Nayanābhirāma: I just cut it out. Upendra: And we'll show it to Rajeev. They've gone to take prasādam just now. Prabhupāda: Oh. Just make it dark. [sound of curtains closing] [break] Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...for getting a little more clear purposes of the Bhaktivedanta Swami Charity Trust we're developing at Gauḍa-maṇḍala-bhūmi. Would you like to hear what we have written? Prabhupāda: Hmm. Svarūpa Dāmodara: "First point: To systematically propagate spiritual knowledge to the residents and the visitors of Gauḍa-maṇḍala-bhūmi. Second point: To propagate the consciousness of Kṛṣṇa, as it is revealed in Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, and to propagate that Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Lord Kṛṣṇa Himself, as is revealed in Śrī Caitanya-caritāmṛta and the Caitanya Bhāgavata. 3] To bring all the members of Gauḍīya-Mādhava-samprādaya together nearer to Lord Caitanya and thus develop within humanity at large that each soul is a part and parcel of Godhead [Kṛṣṇa]. 4] To teach and encourage the saṅkīrtana movement of congregational chanting of the holy names of God given in the teachings of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. 5] To erect temples, schools, colleges, universities, institutes of higher studies, hospitals and other buildings with or for the advancement of the objects of the Trust and to maintain, alter and improve the same, including existing buildings, and to furnish and equip the same. 6] In keeping with the spirit of the previous ācāryas' vision of Gauḍīya-Mādhva sampradāya, to cement relations with all the sister temples of Gauḍīya-Mādhva sampradāya under one banner, to solidify preaching the message of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, as desired by His Divine Grace Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Prabhupāda and Śrīla Ṭhākura Bhaktivinoda and all the previous ācāryas in this line. 7] With a view to achieving the aforementioned purposes and to publish and distribute periodicals, magazines, and other books and other items. 8] To do all such other things for the attainment of the objects of the Trust. 9] Trustee members are appointed lifetime. The numbers should always be seven. 10] A meeting once a year at Śrīdhāma Māyāpur during Gaura-Pūrṇimā. 11] There should be a chairman, a treasurer and a secretary, who are elected each year. 12] A quorum of at least five members." Finishes. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So these are the points, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that we have... We expanded this.

Your original simple point was to form a Bhaktivedanta Swami Charity for developing Gauḍa-maṇḍala-bhūmi. So we have expanded it into these points if they please Your Divine Grace. We took the ideas mostly from your original points in the..., when you formed the New York corporation, Śrīla Prabhupāda. We used those points and just changed them around a little bit.

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