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Government Obstacles Destroy Devotional Energy, Transcendental Life Beyond Material Nationalism

📅 August 29, 1977 📍 Vrindavan
Transcendental devotion knows no national borders; bureaucratic obstacles destroy spiritual progress more than they advance it.
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Prabhupāda: So, how are you? Nirañjana: I am not well, actually, because neither materially nor spiritually there. I reckon I should go back, with your permission.

Prabhupāda: Hmm? Nirañjana: And if you think… Because I was thinking that in my case it may be helpful in preaching there. But too long everything.

Prabhupāda: You are taking advantage of your work? Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Are you taking advantage of your work? Nirañjana: No, actually they are not able to understand what I am doing. So my supervisors… In the beginning, when I met you last time, at that time you said everything is okay, you can start typing those chapters.

So I wrote two chapters. And then you said anything can happen, because in the area in which I work, nobody had worked before. And he was so sure.

Prabhupāda: [coughs] Nirañjana: But then two professors, they disagreed with him, and thus, "It is not possible; you must repeat your results." So after my scholarship it finished in January after three years, they didn't accept my scholarship. So I just continued by doing some part-time job, tried to maintain myself. But I couldn’t repeat my results ’til now. So then they have extended six months my visa.

But I, actually I don’t think that they are able to do, because my furnace is not working, and they don't know the reason. But they don’t want to take blame on themselves, and then, "Because you are not hard-working; that is why you have given up." So I was trying to do only that, because if I leave it, it won’t bring good name to ISKCON, and because they know that I am from Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. But now personally it is too much for me. It’s three and a half years now. Prabhupāda: I don't care for nonsense Ph.D. Nirañjana: Do you think Ph.D. is not helpful in my preaching, then? Prabhupāda: What will be the honor of one with Ph.D.?

I am eating. Nirañjana: But I want to translate something, Hindi books full time, and there is the things, so… Prabhupāda: That is very good. I have written all these books not as Ph.D.—people are appreciating. Ṭhīk hai. London meṁ koi āyurvedic shop hai kyā? [Transl. Is there any Āyurvedic shop in London?] Nirañjana: [Transl. Yes, there are two or three shops—not Āyurvedic, but Indian shops. That cyavan prāsh we brought for you last year was from there. If you need some medicine, just tell me.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Whose cyavan prāsh was that?] Nirañjana: [Transl. You said that it was Zandu's perhaps? They have Zandu's. That is the one available there. I came to know that there are two or three shops in this area.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. Is Zandu's bhāskar salt available?] Nirañjana: [Transl. They have bhāskar salt in powder. It is a good one. Dābar's too.] Prabhupāda: Hmm? Nirañjana: Dābar's. Prabhupāda: Dābar's? Nirañjana: [Transl. Yes. Yesterday we asked about that salt you mentioned in the evening. They said that it is good for gas and pain in the stomach. I’ll see if bhāskar salt is available here. I may call in the evening. If Kṣīrodakaśāyī is at home, I will call and ask.] Prabhupāda: Hmm. [Transl. No, there is no hurry.] Nirañjana: So then I can return back to India and stay? Prabhupāda: Hmm. Nirañjana: [Transl. Then I can go back to India and stay? So I am thinking to go before that Bombay temple opens, and after go to that seminar in Vṛndāvana, next month.] Prabhupāda: [Transl. You cannot live here?] Nirañjana: [Transl. Here? If you permit me, I wish that if I am going to do a work in Hindi, then let me do it after going to India. Another thing is that my parents are in Vṛndāvana, and I wish to live in the temple there. If you give me permission, I’ll become a full-time devotee.] Prabhupāda: In India, I have become disgusted by the behavior of the Government. Nirañjana: Yes. Prabhupāda: I am doing such a great work, and they are suspecting that I have brought some CIA. Nirañjana: I just read that news in that Hindi newspaper here in which they print that in Nadia they have got themselves a Kṛṣṇa conscious āśrama for CIA, and Bhavananda, he worked in high-portal rank in Vietnam, and all this.

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