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Modern Civilization Races Without Knowing Life's Goal, Real Life Means Escaping Material Body Changes

📅 March 26, 1977 📍 Bombay ⏱ 14 min
Modern civilization races like dogs in cars, forgetting the only real life is escaping repeated body changes.
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Indian man: Mr. Keja… examine the organ due to some prostrate trouble or something. Prabhupāda: [Transl. From many months. So long you have the body, you will have problem. This is going on.] Indian man: [Transl. It should not be like that. I actually came to tell you this. You see, this Jai Prakash Narayana's kidney condition became very bad. His X-ray would have been different in India. After proper investigation and treatment… bladder… pressure…] [break] Girirāja: And similarly the today's government leaders should also take advice from the saintly person. Prabhupāda: We can give nice instructions. Girirāja: He wanted to arrange a meeting with Morarji Desai in this week, but I told him that it would be better not to arrange anything until he comes back to Bombay in a week. But he gave me his phone number in Delhi if we want to contact him. Prabhupāda: You want me to go there?

Girirāja: No, I think it's better... First of all, as you mentioned last... Prabhupāda: If he comes, I'll come. Girirāja: Yeah. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I think that Bombay is very important, so Morarji Desai must visit here. And when he visits here, he is a devotee of Kṛṣṇa, so we can invite him to our temple. And at that time he can see you. Prabhupāda: With his associates, invite him, give him prasādam. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That will be more impressive than...

You should not have to go. The administrator comes to the guru. And if he won't come to you, then there is no question of his helping, anyway. Girirāja: Right. Prabhupāda: Yes. If he comes we shall speak on this. Girirāja: Now, for tonight's program, I was thinking that actually there is no need for you to come to the paṇḍāl, because it's very strenuous, and Dr.

Jawar knows us very well. He won't take offense. And he could, if you wanted, he could come for your darśana anyway, which would be less taxing. Prabhupāda: That's all right. Bhavānanda: This Dr. Ojha says that your blood pressure is about 210 to 220 over 100.

He said it should be about 150 over 90. He said any strain moving around [indistinct]. Prabhupāda: But if required, I can go. If it is required, I can go. Girirāja: Well, I don't think it is actually required, because we have a very nice program. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What about tomorrow? Girirāja: Well, tomorrow is a very big day.

Rāma-navamī. The Chief Minister is coming. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Initiation ceremony. Girirāja: And probably the Industry Minister will also come. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Today, you were saying, it is Monday. Girirāja: I was saying that since today is Monday, yesterday was Sunday, so most people probably thought that "I'll go Sunday or else I'll go on Rāma-navamī." So today I think fewer people will come. Prabhupāda: Tomorrow speak. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's what you were thinking originally, that you would be going only on certain days to the paṇḍāl, important days. [to Girirāja:] Do you want to ask Prabhupāda about the press conference? Girirāja: So we wanted to invite the newspaper men to Juhu, and usually they are more inclined to come for these meetings if we give them a nice meal. So that would be...

What I was thinking is that if you are taking your meal at twelve o'clock, then if you could meet them for a short time after that, say, at about twelve-thirty, and then after that then they can take their prasādam. Otherwise we could have it in the afternoon, but I don't think we'll get as good response, because they are after that; they like that meal to be served. Prabhupāda: Well, whatever time, you decide. But after taking my meals, I require a little rest. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How much rest, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Prabhupāda: One hour. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So by one-thirty or two. Prabhupāda: Yes, that time would be better. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Two would be good, I think.

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