A polluted mind creates all material suffering; only Krishna's knowledge, not manufactured ideas, grants real freedom.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Prabhupāda: You have to be free from mind also. Guest (1) [Indian man]: Free from mind? Prabhupāda: Yes, mind. Guest (1): Yes. Very difficult to control mind. Prabhupāda: But if you want freedom, you have to do that. Guest (1): Yes, that's true. There is no other alternative. Guest (2) [Indian man]: Freedom from mind, how would you explain it, or how would you detail it? [break] Prabhupāda: ...mind means polluted mind.
We are part and parcel of God. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ [Bg 15.7]. Jīva is as pure as God, and on account of this mind, he is suffering in this material world. You can see.
You can see. Here is a living being, this tree. It is also a living being, but he's standing before me for fifty years or more than that. He cannot move an inch, and we are moving.
So why this condition? He is also living being; I am also living being. I have got little freedom to move; he hasn't got. Why this difference of position?
Due to the mind. So here in this material world there are 8,400,000 different forms of life. They're all due to the mental concoction. So if we want our original life as good as God, at least in quality, that is freedom of mind.
And then we cease to become one of the covered living beings within this material world. Guest (1): Sir, I read in one of your lectures at London, before the British Office [indistinct], and you gave the example of Mahatma, Mahatma Gandhi and Kennedy. In particular, Mahatma Gandhi you said that four types of defaulted mind and this condition and those condition. Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Every living being is polluted by four kinds of deficiencies.
A conditioned soul commits mistake. He takes something for something. And because he has no perfect knowledge, he wants to become leader. That is cheating. Guest (1): Right.