KC Is Spiritual Science Not Religion, Soul Exists Beyond the Changing Body

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Prabhupāda: Yes? Viśvakarmā: Professor O'Connell came over to the temple when this..., some man came, Ted Patrick, he came to Toronto last year—I think we told you about it—and he took one of our devotees and deprogrammed her. There was big publicity in the paper for an entire week. So Professor O'Connell came forward and spoke on behalf of our movement, saying that he felt that it was a bona fide system of Vaiṣṇavism. And he came to the temple and assisted us. Prabhupāda: O'Connell knows me from a such long time.

Yes. We first met in Harvard University. Next he saw me in London, Bhaktivedanta Manor. I think Boston also. Viśvakarmā: Yes. Prabhupāda: Yes.

He's interested in Vaiṣṇava philosophy. Viśvakarmā: Yes, he wrote his thesis on Caitanya Vaiṣṇavism. Prabhupāda: So he has got his doctorate? Viśvakarmā: Yes. He's bringing one other professor with him. I can't remember his name. He's rather important.

He just got a post at Oxford University, has been granted[?], er, uh, and from Oxford they've asked him to come from Toronto to there. So he'll also be with Professor O'Connell. Satsvarūpa: This is Professor Shivaram from McMaster University. Prabhupāda: I think I saw you first, before this. Thank you. But I...

[aside:] Light on. Indian man: This is Jyotsama, Mrs. Jyotsama; this is Mrs. Mukherjee. This is my wife. Prabhupāda: Mrs.

Mukherjee, you're also teacher here? Mrs. Mukherjee: No, I am a student. Prabhupāda: Student. Mrs. Mukherjee: Graduate student. Indian man: They're all from Bengal. Prabhupāda: Oh. [converses with woman in Bengali, mentions Gauḍīya Maṭha] [aside:] So you can take this pot this side.

[to devotees:] So what I was talking just now about this motorcar race? Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. This breakneck civilization. Just like dog, they're very, very busy. If you watch a dog, sometimes you'll see he's running here, running there, running here, running there.

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