Guru is not artificial; it manifests when a mature disciple perfectly follows the spiritual master's order.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Kīrtanānanda: It’s a little distant is the only problem. Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: And there are several other advantages.
Kīrtanānanda: But I suggested that Jayatīrtha would be responsible as GBC.
Kīrtanānanda: Well, I agree. Well, I can come… I have never been GBC for Hawaii.
Prabhupāda: No? Jayatīrtha: I’ve never been GBC here. Bali-mardana was GBC, and then after that time it was never resolved who would be GBC. But Sudāmā was here, and you told him to go direct with you.
So I never suggested that I become the GBC, because it was [indistinct], more and more territory. Otherwise I would have been more concerned. [break]
Prabhupāda: Anyway, do something. Nothing happening, that is not very good. Devotee (2): Now they have a responsible president… Prabhupāda: Huh? Devotee (2): There is a responsible president here, who will not be so whimsical… [indistinct] Gopal Kṛṣṇa: [indistinct] ...once upon a time.
Jayatīrtha: Hawaii was never part of the western zone; it was always separate. Gaurasundara was here, it was separate. And then Bali-mardana was here.