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Staying Pure Keeps KC Movement Strong, Initiation Requires Surrendering to Guru

📅 May 3, 1976 📍 Honolulu ⏱ 42 min
Keep the movement pure by following Krishna's principles, and no enemy can ever destroy it.
Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca

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Prabhupāda: ...by taking birth of any, whether the tree is taking birth or the ant is taking birth and the fish is taking birth. Everywhere, living entities, they are taking birth. That's all. And they are dying also.

And between birth and death there is disease and old age. So during birth one cannot understand, because there is unconscious stage. Even the fetus is killed, it cannot under..., because fully unconscious stage. And there is life undoubtedly; otherwise how the fetus all of a sudden gets life?

But these mūḍhās cannot see it. Here in this matter there is no life; therefore many thousands of years, if you kill, it will never show any symptom of life. But if there is life, at a time it will come to consciousness. Just like fainted man is lying like a dead man, but he is not dead; there is life.

It is fainted, unconscious state. So because there is life, he may lie down in that unconscious state for two, three hours; again he'll come. It is common sense. And if a log, wood log, is lying flat, will it come to life, anything?

But because these mūḍhās, they are taking that "Fetus has no life. Kill it, finish it and eat it..." It is going on. You know that? Siddha-svarūpa follower: I imagined that it would soon go on, on a mass scale, that... Prabhupāda: No, it will go, because they are becoming more mūḍhās. There is no intelligence.

Therefore I say that we are giving this intelligence. This is the only movement to make these mūḍhās into intelligent. This is the only movement. Otherwise they are becoming more and more and more and more mūḍhās.

So under the circumstances, if we also become mūḍhās, then who will make the other mūḍhās intelligent? That is my point. There are so many things. And the sa...

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