True perfection comes through Krishna consciousness, not vegetarianism; all good qualities bloom automatically in the surrendered devotee.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Prabhupāda: ...detached to that, Jain. So he was advertising about that Jain Muni. Dr. Patel: Sushil Kumar.
Prabhupāda: Sushil Kumar. He went to San Francisco. He met me there. [aside:] Hare Kṛṣṇa.
So he has come back, so I inquired what is the result of his preaching. Viśāla: [from a distance] All glories to Prabhupāda!
Prabhupāda: He said that he has converted one million persons to be vegetarian. So vegetarian..., automatically our disciples, they are automatically vegetarian. There is no separate preaching. But what about the...
He was talking about the ahiṁsā. And I told that vegetarian does not mean ahiṁsā. Dr. Patel: The ahiṁsā should be practiced by manasā vācā and karmanā.
Prabhupāda: No, in the śāstra it is said that ahastāni sa-hastānām apadāni catuṣ-padām [SB 1.13.47]. Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Phalgūni tatra mahatām.
Prabhupāda: Eh? Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Phalgūni tatra mahatām. Prabhupāda: Ah, phalgūni mahatāṁ tatra. Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Jīvo jīvasya jīvanam. Prabhupāda: Mahatāṁ tatra jīvo jīvasya jīvanam. This is natural, that one jīva is the food for another jīva. So how ahiṁsā is possible? Dr. Patel: But that has been said in Rāmāyaṇa by that Mātanga Muni, you know, Mātanga Muni who was harboring Śabari, and then he was killing one elephant and living on the elephant for one year, and all other ṛṣis were against him.