The soul transcends material analysis; only Krishna consciousness liberates from endless desire-driven bondage.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
[in car] Prabhupāda: ...mana, buddhi, ahaṅkāra. And then false identification, ahaṅkāra, then soul. And the soul is so fine. I have given the definition.
How they can see where is soul? Dr. Kapoor: But in the ātmā, you see... You have given a very beautiful description. The smaller the part—as they call it, potency—more powerful it becomes.
So you see, we think that the bigger thing is more powerful, but here science has also proved that greater the potency, the smaller the dose, smaller the size. So similarly, as you describe that what is soul. It's fractional, fractional, fractional, fractional. Prabhupāda: Yes. It is smaller than the atom. Dr.
Kapoor: Unlimited, the smallest fraction of anything, is soul. Prabhupāda: One ten-thousandth part of the top of the hair. Dr. Kapoor: Sir, even that has been measured by measuring instrument. I think it is... You can describe it, whether is smaller part, or infinite smallest part of an atom. Prabhupāda: Yes, it has been measured out.
The measurement is stated. It doesn't... When the statement is there about the measurement of the soul, it was done. Otherwise how it is described in the śāstra? [break] [on walk] Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda?
The last few days, as guests have been coming to greet you, practically everyone who you've had a conversation with has brought up this question, "What is good and what is bad, and what is sinful activity?" Prabhupāda: Hmm? Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It seems that people have great difficulty discriminating today between good and bad. Prabhupāda: So, what is your answer? Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: You've answered very nicely that whatever the authority says is good is good, and whatever the supreme authority says is bad is bad. Independently of what our own way of thinking is, we have to ultimately answer to the supreme authority. Even that lady, she gave the example that in society certain things are good, but they've bent the law, that things which were once bad, they are now accepted as good. So you explained that whatever the authority says is good is good.
So the only difference I can see is that the goodness and the badness that Kṛṣṇa has defined are eternal. Prabhupāda: Bad is this material world, and good is spiritual world. In the material world the discrimination of good and bad is mental concoction. Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Mano-dharma. Prabhupāda: Dvaite bhadrābhadra sakalī samāna. [Cc Antya 4.176] Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So pious activity is that activity which brings us to the spiritual world, and impious activity, activity which roots us here? Or are even the pious activities of the material world considered bad? Prabhupāda: Pious activities or impious activities in this material world, they are the same. Yadubara: Does one have a better chance of reaching to the spiritual platform if he is performing pious activities? Prabhupāda: Yes.