Those who reject Krishna's instruction and attempt to deceive God suffer through maya's punishment via the agitated material mind.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Prabhupāda: If he does not read Bhāgavatam, then he remains a rascal. Hari-śauri: Anything apart from the Vedas is not really knowledge. Prabhupāda: No. May be some fragmental knowledge, but if one wants full knowledge in life, then he must read Bhāgavatam. Bhagavad-gītā is the preliminary ABCD, and then let him read Bhāgavatam. [break] ...bunch of newspaper. [break] They have been taught like that. Andhā yathāndhaiḥ [SB 7.5.31].
They are passing as great leader for giving men wrong direction and spoil the life. He cannot save himself, and he can spoil himself very nicely. Hari-śauri: People's minds are so flickering. There's so much disturbance. Prabhupāda: The mind is the first creation for material enjoyment. From the mind, senses are created: five senses for knowledge-gathering and five senses for working, and five airs within the body.
In this way the mind and fifteen. This is called ṣoḍośa upacāra, sixteen. And then the ingredients, pañca-mahā-bhūta. Then intelligence, ahaṅkāra, false ego.
These twenty-four, combination. And ātmā, jīva, and then Kṛṣṇa—twenty-six. The twenty-six combination is this body, mind, self, soul, Supersoul, everything. [pause] Prabhupāda: So, I am ready. Hari-śauri: I think it's just a little early yet, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Prabhupāda: Hmm? Hari-śauri: Just a little early.
It's still dark. I think ten minutes should be all right. Has this been used? Prabhupāda: Yes. Hari-śauri: All right. I'll take it and wash it.
What is your value of knowledge? Hmm? If they do not know the fundamental things, then what is the value of their knowledge? Simply observation, superficial, externally.
There is good scope. They are receiving these books. We should take chance of preaching this Bhāgavatam, and the classes should be held especially... No, the religious classes are already there.