The soul, covered by matter, seeks enjoyment but finds only suffering until recognizing Krishna consciousness.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Conversation on Roof — December 26, 1975, Sanand 751226RF-SANAND [57:41 Minutes] Conv-751226RF-SANAND Harikeśa: Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: What is the thesis of life? Harikeśa: According to who?
Prabhupāda: Anyone. Harikeśa: Anyone. Some people say that life is to be enjoyed; life is simply there for enjoyment.
Prabhupāda: So the answer is that whether you are actually enjoying life. Harikeśa: Well, right now I'm not actually enjoying life, so...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Harikeśa: ...I have to find out...
Prabhupāda: Then the aim is to enjoy life. Harikeśa: Yes. So I have to find out the means to enjoy, and to negate the pain and to make the pleasure more.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That's very nice proposal. But whether, at the present moment, or in the history, whether a man is enjoying life or suffering? Harikeśa: Well, men..., men have actually never really enjoyed, because they never understood enough about themselves.