True progress means conquering death through Krishna consciousness, not reaching distant planets through material science.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Morning Walk — July 24, 1975, Los Angeles 750724MW-LOS ANGELES [34:40 Minutes] Walk_750724MW-LOS ANGELES Prabhupāda: [indistinct] They are not taking? Brahmānanda: It looks like they're dredging.
Prabhupāda: Not dredging. Brahmānanda: Is that...? They're cleaning the...? Jayatīrtha: I don't know.
They came here recently. It wasn't there a few months... Oh, they're tearing down that pier. They're tearing down that amusement park.
Prabhupāda: No, God is realized only by the devotees. Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ [Bg. 18.55]. So actually, God is realized through devotion. There is no other way.
So in the proportion of one's development of devotional spirit, one realizes God. Ye yathā māṁ prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham [Bg. 4.11]. The proportion, devotion required. But real process is devotion.
Jayādvaita: But how can that be scientifically presented? How can we accept that scientifically?
Prabhupāda: No, no, these rascal scientists, they cannot understand God. Those who were actually advanced, just like Professor Einstein and others, they believed so, that there is God, there is brain. [break] ...somebody was talking about another scientist, big scientist? Who was talking about?