Morning Walk

Soul in Heart Never Mixes with Matter – Human Thinking Power Is for Knowing God

📅 July 14, 1975 📍 Philadelphia ⏱ 42 min
The eternal soul inhabits the material body as a separate entity, functioning only under God's supreme arrangement.
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Morning Walk — July 14, 1975, Philadelphia 750714MW-PHILADELPHIA [42:26 Minutes] Walk_750714MW-PHILADELPHIA Prabhupāda: Both sides forest. [break] Now in America there is no sufficient men to live in all these places, to cut, clear it and make cottages and utilize the land for producing. There is no sufficient men, I think. And where there is overpopulation, why not invite them to come here?

That they will not do. [break] ...has given sufficient land for all the people, but we have made artificial national area. Will not allow. Gurudāsa: In India this would all be utilized for living.

Prabhupāda: Yes. These places also should be allowed to the people who are overpopulated. No visa, no immigration. The whole world is simply mismanaged for want of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Pramattaḥ. The word used, pramattaḥ, mad. Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma [SB 5.5.4]: "All people mad and engaged in misdeeds only for sense gratification." [break] ...this room? Ravīndra-svarūpa: I don't know, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: ...all like this, jungle? Ravīndra-svarūpa: Yes, all along this creek there's a forest like this. This has been done in Philadelphia all along the river, and this huge area of land has been set aside. It's like this.

No one can use it except to take walks. [break] Svarūpa Dāmodara: The question that I wrote to Śrīla Prabhupāda, the answer that Śrīla Prabhupāda gave me was that the cells in the body and the jīvātmā that resides in the heart, they are different living entities. But my understanding was directed to the relationship between the two, the jīvātmā in the cells and the jīvātmā in the heart, how they are related, how they... Prabhupāda: They are separate identity. Svarūpa Dāmodara: But it looks like, though, in the material body the one cannot exist without another. They look like interdependent. Prabhupāda: That may be, but still, they are individual. Ravīndra-svarūpa: When the jīva in the heart dies, then all the other cells in the body also have to die. Prabhupāda: No. Ravīndra-svarūpa: No, they don't.

But when the body decays, doesn't everything... Prabhupāda: No. Dead body, so many germs come out. Ravīndra-svarūpa: Oh. Prabhupāda: How it comes? Svarūpa Dāmodara: But that is different, though. When a body dies, then there are many germs from outside that... Prabhupāda: Living entities within the body, they come out, hundreds and thousands. They have not died.

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