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Religion Means Obeying God's Laws, Society Needs Proper Varna System

📅 March 1, 1975 📍 Atlanta ⏱ 48 min
Religion is God's law, not human invention; society thrives only when all classes obey the divine order.
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Room Conversation with three Trappist Monks, Psychologists from the University of Georgia, and Atlanta Lawyer Michael Green — March 1, 1975, Atlanta 750301R1-ATLANTA [52:27 Minutes] Conv_750301R1-ATLANTA Prabhupāda: That is the Vedic description. The religious principle cannot be manufactured by anyone within this universe. It is the codes or laws given by God. That is religion.

That means we have to know who is God, what is His desire, and we have to abide by that. That is religion. Just like a good citizen means he knows the government and the government laws, and he abides by it. Then he is good citizen.

Otherwise he is criminal. If he does not abide by the laws of the state, he is criminal. Similarly, if one does not abide by the orders or the codes or the laws of God, he is Satan, or demon. Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇā [SB 5.18.12].

Therefore anyone who is disobedient to God, he cannot have any good qualification. And yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcanā sarvair guṇais tatra samāsate suraḥ, and one who is devotee, abiding by the orders of God, he has got all the good qualification of God's. Therefore, the duty of the state, duty of the father, duty of the teacher—everyone, those who are guardians—they should teach their subordinate how to become faithful to God. This one qualification will make him perfect. That is not being done.

Everyone is godless mostly. And therefore there is problems, chaotic condition. Nobody is abiding by the supreme law. Everyone is creating his own law.

That is the trouble. So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is meant for making the human society law-abiding citizen of the laws given by God. So that is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa, God, is giving, "You do like this." If we do like that...

Or take even Bible. If we follow strictly, then we become happy. So, am I right or wrong? What is your opinion? Guest (1) [Indian man]: You are very right in saying this because we cannot solve many problem.

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