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Universe's Perfect Order Proves Supreme Controller Exists – Chance and Evolution Are Foolish Atheistic Theories

📅 January 27, 1975 📍 Tokyo ⏱ 12 min
Without an intelligent arranger, nothing automatically comes together—only foolish atheists deny God's obvious control.
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Room Conversation — January 27, 1975, Tokyo 750127R1-TOKYO [11:51 Minutes] Conv_750127R1-TOKYO Prabhupāda: ...flowers, fruits, and temperature is changing. It is rotating. Very fixed up, very timely. How can you say there is no control?

How can you say? The animals cannot say, but any human being can say, "Yes, there is control. Otherwise how things are going on like this?" [break] ...convince him there is surely controller. Convince him.

Prabhupāda: Ah. What does it say? Nitāi: It says: asatyam apratiṣṭhaṁ te jagad āhur anīśvaram aparaspara-sambhūtaṁ kim anyat kāma-haitukam [Bg. 16.8] Prabhupāda: Translation. Nitāi: "They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and there is no God in control.

It is produced of sex desire and has no cause other than lust." Prabhupāda: They think, the asura... That is the distinction between asura and sura. The asura will say, "There is no control." Anīśvaram. Īśvaram means controller; anīśvaram means without any controller. Then how it has come into existence, how it is working so nicely?

So they answer it: kāma-haitukam. Kāma-haitukam means just like a man and woman mix together, then there is sex desire and there is a production of child. There is no question of controlling. It is timely interaction of different elements.

This is called kāma-haitukam. So... What is that other? Asatyam... Nitāi: Asatyam apratiṣṭham. Prabhupāda: And others, other atheist in the dress of very good sannyāsī, they say jagad mithyā, mithyā.

But they say also, brahma satya. They accept Brahmān. They are not so atheist; at least they accept. Then? Nitāi: Jagad āhur anīśvaram [Bg. 16.8]. Prabhupāda: Ah, jagad āhur anīśvaram.

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