Room Conversation

Buddha Is an Incarnation of Krishna – We Know the Secret the Buddhists Don't

📅 March 16, 1974 📍 Vrindavan ⏱ 26 min
Follow the spiritual master's order as your only way to Krishna; direct contact requires purity most devotees have not attained.
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Room Conversation — March 16, 1974, Vṛndāvana 740316R2-VRNDAVAN [20:48 Minutes] Conv_740316R2-VRNDAVAN Prabhupāda: They're Australian. [Hindi conversation with another guest about Lakṣmī's position in relation to Kṛṣṇa and the gopīs] [break] Gurudāsa: Like Lord Caitanya, you have also showed him the right way.

Prabhupāda: He is there on the line. Gurudāsa: What was the discussion about Lakṣmī?

Prabhupāda: He says that Lakṣmī had no entrance in Vṛndāvana. So I said that in Brahmā-saṁhitā it says lakṣmī-sahasra [Bs. 5.29], so what is..., what are these Lakṣmīs? So gopīs are also Lakṣmīs. Kṛṣṇa is accepted as Lakṣmī.

Kṛṣṇa is Viṣṇu, Nārāyaṇa; therefore His..., these girlfriends, they are also Lakṣmīs. Without Him, Lakṣmī, how she can associate with Kṛṣṇa? Ānanda-cinmaya-rasa pratibhāvitabhis [Bs. 5.37]. [break] Harikeśa: ...communication, the only way of talking to the spiritual master to communicate is verbal talking, the only way in which one can communicate with his spiritual master.

Prabhupāda: No, there are more... [break] ...discussions with spiritual master, that is actually following.

Devotee: Hmm. [break] Harikeśa: ...which I've always been afraid to ask, because I don't know if it's proper, but you being the external manifestation of Supersoul, if we are having questions, doubts, when, in your absence, if we are receiving indications, is there any possible way that someone who is so conditioned can have any understanding of proper action in your absence? In other words, if I am in your absence and I am in great doubt, and I am praying to Supersoul to please save me somehow, if I receive some action which I must do, or some course of action becomes obvious, should I trust that, considering that you're communicating with me, or...? Prabhupāda: That depends on purity. If one has become pure, without any material desire, then that is possible.

But if there is some material desire, we cannot expect direct communication. Harikeśa: So I have much material desire. Prabhupāda: I do not say you or he. This is the process. This is the process. Harikeśa: What in the meantime... Prabhupāda: Huh? Harikeśa: ...until we have reached the pure state... Prabhupāda: In the meantime it is not possible... Harikeśa: Not possible. Prabhupāda: ...directly. Harikeśa: So we must communicate with you verbally or through letters. Prabhupāda: Not with spiritual master here. You cannot concoct, "Now I am getting directly." No. Harikeśa: So the nature of the communication with the spiritual master in our state is only through... Prabhupāda: Spiritual master...

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