Room Conversation

Room Conversation with John Papworth and E.F. Schumacher

📅 August 4, 1973 📍 London ⏱ 152 min
Purify your material activities through Krishna consciousness rather than abandoning progress altogether.
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Room Conversation With Mr. John Papworth and Mr. E. F.

Schumacher — August 4, 1973, London 7300804R1-LONDON [152:00 Minutes] Conv_730804R1-LONDON Revatīnandana: So Mr. Papworth you know, and Mr. Schumacher will be up in a second.

Prabhupāda: Yes, you came here before. Revatīnandana: Yes, that's right.

Prabhupāda: How are you? Mr. Papworth: My invariable reply, sir, is that I am dying slowly. I trust you are well, sir.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Old man, [laughs] struggling. Spiritual consciousness is not dependent on material impediments. Mr.

Papworth: I'm not hearing these beautiful words. [pause] Revatīnandana: He remarked that the spiritual consciousness is not impeded by material impediments—like the body. Mr. Papworth: I discovered that when I was a cook.

I used to have to peel a huge bathful of potatoes every day, hours and hours, and it became that I could peel the potatoes without being aware that I was handling them. And my mind was roaming, disembodied almost from any encumbrance. But this is not the same as meditation, I'm sure, as you see it.

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