True intelligence means awakening to one's eternal nature and liberation from the illusion of material dependence.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Room Conversation with Educationists — July 13, 1973, London 730713R1-LONDON [46:49 Minutes] Conv_730713R1-LONDON Guest (1) [young British woman]: What was the meaning in that?
Prabhupāda: Ṭhākura, they belong to kṣatriya class. Brāhmaṇa... According to Vedic conception, there are four divisions: brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya and śūdra. So next to brāhmaṇa is the kṣatriya.
So this Ṭhākura title is given to the kṣatriyas, administrator class. Yes. So in your library you are keeping our books? No.
All books? Guest (2) [young British man]: Well, not all of them. We couldn't keep all.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. [pause] So you have known something about our movement?
Guest (1): No, I came as a Christian, not knowing anything. I still know very little.
Prabhupāda: Our movement is to revive God consciousness. Just like a man is sleeping, and he has got some engagement, say, in the morning, at six o'clock. But still he's sleeping. So somebody is trying to awake him: "Get up!