The eternal soul witnesses changing bodies across time; consciousness forgotten of Krishna is material, consciousness full of Krishna is spiritual.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Morning Walk — May 14, 1973, Los Angeles 730514MW-LOS ANGELES [43:47 Minutes] Walk_730514MW-LOS ANGELES Kṛṣṇa-kāntī: [introducing recording] Śrīla Prabhupāda's morning walk, recorded May 14th, 1973, at Cheviot Hills Park, in Los Angeles.
Prabhupāda: The material energy, it is also coming from Kṛṣṇa. The spiritual en... Kṛṣṇa Himself is spiritual energy. Exactly like that is.
This weather is coming from sun, but sun is covered. The weather created by sun makes himself covered; not himself covered, it is covering our eyes. Sun is not covered; my eyes are covered. Therefore material means when our consciousness is not developed.
That's the meaning. It is somehow or other covered. That is material. [aside:] Where is our scientist?
They... The mistake of the scientist is that they do not accept two energies, material and spiritual. Svarūpa Dāmodara: No.
Prabhupāda: They accept one energy. We accept also that. But they..., defect is they are beginning from the material. That is their mistake.
Just like this weather is beginning from the light, and gradually it is becoming dark. So darkest part, or the dark part, is called material. But the dark is beginning from light, not the light is beginning from dark. That is their method.