Garden Conversation with Professor Kulshrestha

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Garden Conversation with Professor Kulshrestha — June 26, 1972, Los Angeles 720626GC-LOS ANGELES [39:46 Minutes] Conv_720626GC-LOS ANGELES Prabhupāda: ...achedyam. These are the... Achedya, can be cut into pieces. [indistinct] cannot be burned.

Now the physist, chemist, they have got experience, everything burns, everything is melted; therefore it is metaphysical. What is metaphysical? What is the meaning of "meta"?

Devotee: "Under." Prabhupāda: Huh? Metaphysics. Atreya Ṛṣi: Is it "above"?

Prabhupāda: Physics and metaphysics. What is this "meta"? Atreya Ṛṣi: Beyond physics.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Bhaja govindaṁ bhaja govindaṁ bhaja govindaṁ mūḍha-mate. Scientists, physists, philosophers, after all, they will die. So knowledge of physics and chemistry cannot save you.

Therefore Śaṅkarācārya says bhaja govindaṁ: "Just become devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa." Kṛṣṇa says, ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣayiṣyāmi [Bg. 18.66]. There are many instances, great saintly persons have taken to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Lord Caitanya says, "Take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness." Yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa [Cc. Madhya 7.128].

So we should have to follow the big personalities. Why should we hesitate? [pause] By this carriage where Tulasī-devī goes? Devotee (1): I don't know.

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