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Room Conversation with Scientists – Science Must Acknowledge God

📅 June 15, 1972 📍 Los Angeles ⏱ 57 min
All creative power becomes destructive when directed toward sense gratification instead of serving Krishna.
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Room Conversation about Science — June 15, 1972, Los Angeles 720615R1-LOS ANGELES [56:50 Minutes] Conv_720615R1-LOS ANGELES Prabhupāda: …past misdeeds, and this man cuts your hand, he creates another misdeed. In this way we become bound up by one deed after another. Karma-bandhanaḥ. Śyāmasundara: So by this tampering of bodies they’ll become more and more entangled. Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. First of all whether that... will be able to do so [indistinct].

And even they are able too... Śyāmasundara: They’ve already done some…, made some progress like that. Prabhupāda: What is that progress? They cannot create even an ant. Śyāmasundara: No, like changing the chromosomes and gene structures they’ve mutated bodies. Just like there was a…, few years back there was a drug called Thalidomide, which was given widely to pregnant women. It was supposed to help them, but it turns out that it mutated many babies.

It changed the cell structure in the womb, and they all came out without any limbs—born without arms and legs. Prabhupāda: That much harm they can do. That’s all. Without arms and legs they would come? Śyāmasundara: It was a mistake. They created some drug which made babies being born without arms and legs.

So they will be able to change bodies, that's… Prabhupāda: But change bodies cannot, because we have several times explained, that after sex the two kinds of secretion, they mix and emulsify, and it forms into a body like a pea. Then the pea grows. Now by medicinal process you can stop growing the hands and legs. Devotee: Yet they have mistaken whatever was supposed to grow that they would grow, they would take up the next step. So if an arm was supposed to grow that day, and she took that Thalidomide, the arm wouldn’t grow.

The next day the process would continue to grow. So something would be missing from that day that the medicine was taken. Prabhupāda: Yes. In the growing condition… Just like a seed is fructifying, but if you add something it may not fructify. Śyāmasundara: What they’re trying to do now is, in a tube, a glass tube, they recreate the conditions of sex life. Prabhupāda: So that’s all right. What is the credit there?

Why they are foolishly trying that? That is my proposal. Śyāmasundara: Well, their just simply curiosity… Prabhupāda: Suppose if they can create a living entity within a test tube, what is the credit there? There are so many living entities. Ātreya Ṛṣi: They can never go beyond natural law. Prabhupāda: Huh? Ātreya Ṛṣi: They can never go beyond… Śyāmasundara: The only use ultimately would be destructive. They’ll be able to ruin everything. Prabhupāda: And that they’re doing.

They’re expert in doing it. Devotee: They can’t help it. How can they help it? Prabhupāda: They’ll create more chaos, that’s all. Śyāmasundara: Even if they create fifty Einsteins. Einstein invented… Prabhupāda: If you…, even if they create… What Einstein has done? Śyāmasundara: The atom bomb. Prabhupāda: What is the gift of Einstein? Śyāmasundara: The atom bomb. Prabhupāda: The atom bomb? Śyāmasundara: Yeah. Prabhupāda: Einstein is worshiped because he has given atom bomb? That’s all? Śyāmasundara: One of the things that they’re trying to do now that the space administration has spent millions of dollars already, they’re trying to create a cross between an animal and a man, which will have a human brain and an animal body composed of different types of animals, so that he can survive on other planets. Prabhupāda: So our Nṛsiṁhadeva is half, nṛsiṁha: half man.

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