Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.9.10

Krishna Teaches Brahma Truth Beyond Material Perception

📅 April 28, 1972 📍 Tokyo ⏱ 28 min
The spiritual world transcends material nature's modes, time's decay, and illusion through pure devotional service to Krishna.
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Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 2.9.10 — April 28, 1972, Tokyo 720428SB-TOKYO [28:18 Minutes] SB-02.09.10_720428SB-TOKYO Pradyumna: ...surāsurārcitāḥ [SB 2.9.10] [break] "...abode of the Lord, the material modes of ignorance and passion do not prevail. Nor there's any other influence in the matter of goodness. There is no predominant..." Prabhupāda: Nor there is...? Nor there is...?

Pradyumna: "Nor is there any of their influence in the matter of goodness." Prabhupāda: Ah, yes. Pradyumna: "There is no predominance of the influence of time, so what to speak of the illusory, external energy that cannot enter in that region. Without discrimination, both the demigods and the demons worship the Lord as devotees." Prabhupāda: So this is the description, beginning, just to get an idea of the spiritual world. Unless we go there...

Just like we have come to Japan. We are getting direct experience. But before coming here, from books and literature and maps—it is an example—we can get some information what is Japan. Similarly, the spiritual world, what is that spiritual world, in other places, in Upaniṣad also describes.

In the Bhagavad-gītā also, this description, na tad bhāsayate sūryo na candro na pāvakaḥ [Bg. 15.6]: there is no need of sunlight, moonlight, what to speak of the stars, neither na pāvakaḥ, neither electricity. Na tad bhāsayate sūryo na candro na pāvakaḥ. Here in this material world we cannot see things without sunlight, moonlight or electricity. We are proud of our eyes, but as soon as there is no light... Now there is sunlight; we can see very nicely.

The spiritual world is not like that. There is no need of sunlight, moonlight or electricity. The first impression is there in the Bhagavad-gītā. Similarly here also, pravartate yatra rajas tamas tayoḥ sattvaṁ ca miśraṁ na ca kāla-vikramaḥ [SB 2.9.10] Na..., na pravartate.

What is the meaning? Pradyumna: Na pravartate? "Prevail." Prabhupāda: "Not prevail." "Does not prevail." What is that? Here there are three material modes of nature, sattva-guṇa, rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa: goodness, passion and ignorance. These things are not there.

Here the sattva-guṇa, the goodness, is also polluted, miśram. Here... Just like sometimes a brāhmaṇa, born of a brāhmaṇa family, very first class, all, everything, but he is working as a śūdra, not pure. There is mixture. Therefore it is said, sattvaṁ ca miśram.

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