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Speech at Sri Caitanya Matha -Nature Works Under God's Supervision – Behind Nature Is Krishna

📅 February 19, 1972 📍 Visakhapatnam ⏱ 26 min
Nature works not blindly, but under Krishna's complete supervision; to understand this is Krishna consciousness.
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Lecture at Śrī Caitanya Maṭha — February 19, 1972, Visakhapatnam 720219LE-VISAKHAPATNAM [26:21 Minutes] Lecture_720219LE-VISAKHAPATNAM [audience talking loudly in background throughout] Prabhupāda: ... kindly coming here and participating in the great Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. [break] ...in this meeting, the Commissioner of Income Tax... Host: Sales tax, Sales tax. Prabhupāda: Sales tax, present here, and he has asked me [loud applause] one intelligent question, which I, I was just going to answer. So I shall try to answer, here in this meeting, what is the objective of this movement. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a purificatory process. Consciousness is there, as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, avināśi tu tad viddhi yena sarvam idaṁ tatam [Bg. 2.17] There are two kinds of consciousness. One consciousness is limited, another consciousness is unlimited.

The unlimited consciousness is there in God, and limited consciousness is there in you, in me, and of all living entities. [still much talking in audience] Host: [calls out for silence] Prabhupāda: Just like if I pinch your body, you feel pain. This is also consciousness, that "Somebody is pinching me." But if I pinch somebody else, you cannot feel it. Therefore your consciousness or my consciousness is limited within this body.

Similarly, there is another consciousness, which is Kṛṣṇa's consciousness, or universal consciousness. If I pinch your body, He feels that I am pinching somebody, as Paramātmā. These things are explained in the Bhagavad-gītā. Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, Kṣetra-kṣetrajña chapter [Bg 13.27]. Kṣetra means this body, and kṣetra-jña means the knower of the body.

Kṣetra-jña. Jña means knower. So Kṛṣṇa says that each and every body can be kṣetra-jña. I know about the pains and pleasure of my body; you know the pains and pleasure of your body. Host: [calls for silence again] Prabhupāda: I think they cannot understand. Host: [calls for silence and explains in local language that talk is in English, among other things] [break] Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa says that kṣetra-jñaṁ cāpi māṁ viddhi sarva-kṣetreṣu bhārata [Bg. 13.3].

Just like I am present in my body. I know the pains and pleasure of my body, but Kṛṣṇa, because He is present in everyone's body, īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati [Bg. 18.61], He knows the pains and pleasure of all bodies. That is difference between Kṛṣṇa and ourself, or God and ourself. This is the test.

Somebody is claiming that "I am God." How you can be God? You cannot know the pains and pleasures of others, but Kṛṣṇa knows. That is the difference between God and living entity. Host: [calls for silence again] [break] Prabhupāda: So far consciousness is concerned, God is also conscious, we are also conscious, but our consciousness is limited and God's consciousness is unlimited. That is the difference. Arjuna, when he was..., he was taking instruction from Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa says that "This yoga system, I explained to the sun-god." And Arjuna inquired, "How is that, Kṛṣṇa?

Both You and me, we are born recently. How it is that You say that You explained to the sun-god, long, long years, forty millions of years ago?" Kṛṣṇa answered this point, "My dear Arjuna, you are My eternal friend. You are always with Me. When I instructed the sun-god, you were also present, but you have forgotten.

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