Krishna consciousness is the eternal nature of all souls, now spreading globally through the holy names in Lord Caitanya's movement.Listen — Srila Prabhupada Uvaca
Room Conversation with Apa Pante High Commissioner for United Kingdom — August 4, 1971, London 710804R1-LONDON [37:04 Minutes] Conv_710804R1-LONDON Devotee: [introducing recording] Discussion between His Divine Grace and Apa Pante, A-P-A-P-A-N-T-E, High Commissioner for United Kingdom, 4th August, 1971, noon. The recording is not very clear, being copied from a cassette tape recorder. Please make it out as best as possible. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Prabhupāda: …In India by nature they are Kṛṣṇa conscious, but by artificial means they have been... Apa Pante: [laughs] Prabhupāda: …trained to forget Kṛṣṇa.
Like that. Apa Pante: [indistinct] So it is artificial? Prabhupāda: That is... Apa Pante: Hmm. That's normal [indistinct]. Prabhupāda: I think you understand some Bengali. There is a verse in Caitanya-caritamṛta, nitya-siddha kṛṣṇa-bhakti ‘sādhya’ kabhu naya śravaṇādi-śuddha-citte karaye udaya [Cc. Madhya 22.107] Apa Pante: Yes.
Prabhupāda: It is not an artificial imposition. So everyone is Kṛṣṇa conscious. Apa Pante: Sva-bhāva. Prabhupāda: Sva-bhāva. Apa Pante: Sva-bhāva. [indistinct] Prabhupāda: Ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt [Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12]. Sva-bhāva.
[indistinct] Apa Pante: Śivo 'ham, śivo 'ham. Prabhupāda: That is another thing. But the process recommended in this age by Caitanya Mahāprabhu: harer nāma harer nāma harer nāmaiva kevalam [Cc. Ādi 17.21] So harer nāma—Hare means the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa—that simply chanting harer nāma one can be entirely Kṛṣṇa consciousness. And actually it is happening. These European and American boys and girls, especially the young men, four years ago they did not know what is Kṛṣṇa, but now they are so serious... Apa Pante: Hmm. Prabhupāda: ...about Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
We have got many Muhammadans, Parsis, yogīs[?], everywhere. [indistinct] But nitya siddha kṛṣṇa. Nitya siddha. That means eternally. Apa Pante: Yes, eternally.
That is very nice [indistinct]. Prabhupāda: [indistinct] So far my belief is that… Why my belief? It is the belief of the authority, Lord Caitanya. He said that this movement will spread, and people will be happy. So it is a great movement.
Every thoughtful man, scientist, philosopher and follower should try to understand. It is authorized, based on Bhagavad-gītā, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam: śrīmad-bhāgavataṁ amalaṁ purāṇam [SB 12.13.18]. Apa Pante: Umalaṁ? Prabhupāda: Amalaṁ [indistinct]. Amalaṁ. Amalaṁ means karma jñāna-miśra.