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Bhakti Includes All Knowledge and Renunciation Automatically

📅 December 5, 1970 📍 Indore
Bhakti is not sentiment but practical engagement rooted in knowledge, culminating in pure love for Krishna's happiness alone.
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Hansadutta: Prabhupāda has been speaking at the Gita Bhavan in Indore and this is the 2nd morning that he has spoken. Prabhupāda: Renunciation and knowledge automatically follow bhakti. Guest: Devotees do not need to try for knowledge and renuniation, these things are acquired automatically for them. Prabhupāda: That is what [indistinct] Kṛṣṇa is the vairāgya-vān Just like renunciant [vairāgya-vān], and scholar [jñānī], śūdra: kibā vipra, kibā nyāsī, śūdra kene naya yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei ’guru’ haya [Cc Madhya 8.128] [Whether one is a brāhmaṇa, a sannyāsī or a śūdra—regardless of what he is—he can become a spiritual master if he knows the science of Kṛṣṇa.] It does not make any difference that somebody is a householder, somebody is sannyāsī. Someone is a brāhmaṇa, someone is a śūdra—these things are not there in bhakti-mārga. Whoever knows Kṛṣṇa, understands this science, he is a guru: yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, tattva-vettā, kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, he is a guru. In our Vaiṣṇava-sampradāya, the idea that one will be great by becoming a brāhmaṇa and sannyāsī is not there.

Though it is a social idea. But bhagavat-bhakti...

Guest: What will you take now? Prabhupāda: What? [aside:] There is not, no coffee. [indistinct], I simply want, we will all go together with chanting Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa. Guest: In Ahmedabad, 5 to 6 strangers were dancing. Whenever 15 ser butter was being brought, whoever got it on their heads, they ate every bite of it. Jeldi kaldo malayo usane [?]. Everyday there had a discourse on the life of Mahāprabhu. Prabhupāda: Good [indistinct] Guest: [indistinct] still they do not understand. Prabhupāda: They will understand, by constant hearing they will understand. Guest: They will understand by constant hearing.

Still in their minds [indistinct] Prabhupāda: That will also happen by constant hearing. Guest: Yes. Prabhupāda: Paraṁ vijayate śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. The dirt on the mirror of the mind will all be washed away by constant hearing saṅkīrtana. [Let there be all victory for the chanting of the holy name of Lord Kṛṣṇa, which can cleanse the mirror of the heart and stop the miseries of the blazing fire of material existence. That chanting is the waxing moon that spreads the white lotus of good fortune for all living entities. It is the life and soul of all education. The chanting of the holy name of Kṛṣṇa expands the blissful ocean of transcendental life. It gives a cooling effect to everyone and enables one to taste full nectar at every step.] śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ hṛdy antaḥ stho hy abhadrāṇi vidhunoti suhṛt satām [SB 1.2.17] [Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramātmā [Supersoul] in everyone's heart and the benefactor of the truthful devotee, cleanses desire for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee who has developed the urge to hear His messages, which are in themselves virtuous when properly heard and chanted.] So this is the process. Somehow or other he should be in saṅkīrtana.

Then everything will be all right. First class. Guest: [indistinct] Prabhupāda: Yes. Guest: [indistinct] Prabhupāda: [indistinct] ..one who is inquisitive goes to guru, sādhu guru. Kṛṣṇa. One does not need to go to sādhu guru for asking, "What is the market price of this commodity?

What is this thing? Or this fellow is sick so what is its medicine?" No. For this, he has to go to a physician. Guest: [indistinct] Prabhupāda: Topmost. Topmost subject.

The topmost subject is, the topmost subject uttama-viṣayā means udgata tama. The worldly subject matters are the tama subject, tamasi mā, tamasi mā. Tamasic [ignorance]. What would happen with these worldly materialistic questions surrounding the political state of affairs, what will happen to us?

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